tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post361742326323046438..comments2023-08-03T03:06:27.575+12:00Comments on Courtney Schafer: Thursday Adventure: Torreys Peak (14,267 ft) via Kelso RidgeCourtney Schaferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00593975028655479293noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-79418076491833722832012-08-09T02:57:45.066+12:002012-08-09T02:57:45.066+12:00Nice! I definitely recommend Kelso Ridge as a fun ...Nice! I definitely recommend Kelso Ridge as a fun alternative to the main trail, if you go back to revisit Torreys. And hey, thanks for commenting - always fun to hear from another 14er climber!Courtney Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00593975028655479293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-53933418866063403082012-08-09T02:51:40.492+12:002012-08-09T02:51:40.492+12:00I call a route a "scramble" if it involv...I call a route a "scramble" if it involves ascending over trail-less rock (whether it's a simple talus slope where you occasionally need to use your hands, or a true class 3 climb). But I like your swearing definition. :)Courtney Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00593975028655479293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-65547510510187778562012-08-08T17:41:33.059+12:002012-08-08T17:41:33.059+12:00That is too funny. I just climbed Grey's Peak...That is too funny. I just climbed Grey's Peak a few days back. Unfortunately, we couldn't climb Torrey's because we started too late in the day. It looks like fun, though.Dylan Book Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09922266337492927258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-13821504979266649762012-08-08T15:10:20.782+12:002012-08-08T15:10:20.782+12:00Thanks for taking us along on another climb - I re...Thanks for taking us along on another climb - I really enjoy these posts.<br /><br />And what's the difference between a hike and a scramble? Does a scramble involve getting on your hands and knees, like on that knife edge? Or does it simply involve swearing?Steve MChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15026970188928733645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-67792643059481573112012-08-03T06:59:10.606+12:002012-08-03T06:59:10.606+12:00Well, it all depends on your comfort level (some p...Well, it all depends on your comfort level (some people are fearless natural climbers), but yeah, I usually recommend newbies work up through the classes. Do some class 1 14er hikes, then some class 2 scrambles, then some routes with a few class 3 moves (e.g. Longs Peak's standard route), then some sustained Class 3 ridge routes, etc.Courtney Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00593975028655479293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-36114502256230217362012-08-03T06:44:40.253+12:002012-08-03T06:44:40.253+12:00Thank you.
So a complete newbie should not tackle...Thank you.<br /><br />So a complete newbie should not tackle anything harder than, say, Class 2, if that?Paul Weimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02444942522624902562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-6824670188405518582012-08-03T06:39:47.856+12:002012-08-03T06:39:47.856+12:00Class 1: hiking on a trail
Class 2: hiking off-tra...Class 1: hiking on a trail<br />Class 2: hiking off-trail, but without consistent need to use hands to ascend (e.g. ascending talus or scree slopes, where you might occasionally need a hand for balance)<br />Class 3: Ascending rock with plentiful hand & footholds (the "climbing a ladder" scenario)<br />Class 4: Ascending rock with plentiful hand & footholds, but serious, sustained exposure: if you fall, you will die. (Some people prefer a rope for protection.)<br />Class 5: Technical rock climbing, where a rope is necessary for all but free soloists. This class is further divided into degrees of difficulty via the Yosemite decimal system (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_Decimal_System), which runs 5.0 to 5.14 and beyond.<br /><br />This is complicated further by the tendency of routes in certain mountain ranges to be called "Class 3" regardless of the danger, if the first ascent was done unroped. (I remember once in the Sierra Nevada we were eyeing this so-called Class 3 ridge route that made us all break out in a cold sweat just looking at it, and my husband announcing, "That's not 3rd class, that's DEATH CLASS!")Courtney Schaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00593975028655479293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7650130703584309038.post-26352524958484353102012-08-03T05:48:22.229+12:002012-08-03T05:48:22.229+12:00So what are the various classes?
And those are ...So what are the various classes? <br /><br />And those are some terrific views! Thank you for sharing them, Courtney!Paul Weimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02444942522624902562noreply@blogger.com